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Super Tuesday: Obama wins big, but Clinton takes Cali


by Sunny Hundal    
February 5, 2008 at 6:08 pm

Well, you knew this was going to come didn’t you? How can anyone not be excited that it’s Super Tuesday today, as 20+ American states go to vote for their party nominee!

6am update
- Obama wins big by taking 13 states versus Clinton’s 9 states!
- Obama wins by higher margins than Clinton does, good for his delegate count
- But Clinton takes California and NY, which have lots of delegates.
- Projected delegate split by NBC: Obama ahead by 4 delegates (841/837).
- Romney did worse than expected, losing California. Future in doubt.
- Mike Huckabee did much better than expected, especially in Southern states.
- McCain way ahead, winning the huge delegate count from NY & Cali.
- Rumours Romney may stop his campaign.

ELECTION UPDATES
9pm CNN is reporting Huckabee takes West Virginia!.
Shariq points out in the comments that McCain may have helped.

11:30pm Still nothing more than W Virginia yet. CNN says Democrats are not deeply divided even though it is going to be a loooong night for them:

There’s no doubt Democrats are torn between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. But the early exit polls show they are not bitterly divided: 72 percent of Democrats said they would be satisfied if Clinton won the party’s nomination, while 71 percent say the same about Obama.

The live-discussion applet is below. I’m afraid it only works for Mozilla 2+ and Internet Explorer 6+ browsers. If you’re having problems, please post a comment.

Articles from tonight
- Joe Trippi (campaign manager) talks about John Edwards
- Rush Limbaugh plays “Barack The Magic Negro” on his show
- Polls prediction Obama and Clinton win
- Romney ahead in California but McCain looks good overall.

News from past few days
- Polls shift to show Obama levelling with Clinton nationally
- Obama raised over $30m in Jan, Clinton raised around $13m.
- Feminists oppose Hillary, endorse Obama in New York
- Hillary Clinton – the hate campaign against her
- Obama endorsements pile up

State    Democrats    Republicans
Alabama Barack Obama Mike Huckabee
Alaska Barack Obama No vote
Arizona Hillary Clinton John McCain
Arkansas Hillary Clinton Mike Huckabee
California Hillary Clinton John McCain
Colorado Barack Obama Mitt Romney
Connecticut Barack Obama John McCain
Delaware Barack Obama John McCain
Georgia Barack Obama Mike Huckabee
Idaho Barack Obama No vote
Illinois Barack Obama John McCain
Kansas Barack Obama No vote
Massachusetts Hillary Clinton Mitt Romney
Minnesota Barack Obama Mitt Romney
Missouri Barack Obama John McCain
Montana No vote Mitt Romney
New Jersey Hillary Clinton John McCain
New Mexico Hillary Clinton No vote
New York Hillary Clinton John McCain
North Dakota Barack Obama Mitt Romney
Oklahoma Hillary Clinton John McCain
Tennessee Hillary Clinton Mike Huckabee
Utah Barack Obama Mitt Romney
West Virginia No vote Mike Huckabee

My predictions
Even though Obama has built huge momentum over the last week and narrowed the field with Clinton, I expect Clinton to win overall. This is partly because he hasn’t had enough time to catch up in states like New Jersey and New York, where she had over 20 point leads at one time, and because in California (where he is even projected ahead in some polls) a lot of older Democrats posted their votes a few weeks back. That will undoubtedly play in Clinton’s favour.

But if Clinton is less than 10% ahead of Obama nationally, then it gets very tricky because she was around 15% – 20% up only a few weeks ago nationally. If Obama is near to smelling victory, the ABC camp (Anyone But Clinton) will get fired up and pull out all the stops to ensure they don’t get Clinton as the next US President. Barring any big gaffes, it is very likely to be a Democrat. I expect even Republicans to mobilise against Clinton in any way they can. And of course, the misogyny will come out.

In the end, I expect Barack Obama to win the Democrat presidential nomination. There, I’ve stuck my neck out and said it. Although, if Clinton is ahead by 15-20% nationally, then it depends on how the states voted and Clinton may have a stronger chance.


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1. Lee Griffin

More 4 ran a piece last night that, while far from scientific, just went to show in the midwest how people were very positive about Obama and distrusting of Hillary. They also generally voted McCain if Hillary was running against him but against McCain if Obama was against him. As I say, far from scientific but you could feel the completely different attitudes in these swing voters about both democrat party contenders.

I think the democrats have to look sharp now, they’ve got the polls around them, they have the evidence that Obama is on the up vs McCain while Clinton is on the down…they can see that the idea of a McCain vs Clinton is not looking like it’d go her way. It is also pretty damn clear that McCain is going to take the Republican race tonight. So why on earth would anyone continue to vote Clinton unless a signed up for life member of her fan club?

Obama has picked up almost 10 points on the polls in the last half a month alone while Hillary, as I personally expected, picked up more points when Edwards left the race.

The question is now I guess are the democrats going to fight for a presidential victory or are they going to fight over internal politics, because one way or another, whoever is the “better” candidate of the two doesn’t matter now…what should matter to them is who those independent voters that will need to be persuaded in future months will follow in greater numbers, and right now that person is clearly Obama.

McCain will lose to whoever runs against him. The GOP hardcore just won’t turn out. That line’s a bit of a red herring, if you ask me.

Oi where’s the cool live blogging software!?

Yeah thats coming up! A bit later, when the results start coming in. Its easy to start up and then insert in the code…

5. Lee Griffin

It’s cheap cinema time, but I’m actually a more stoked for the rest of the night after I think. ;)

6. Aaron Heath

The most important factor is how the Edwards followers vote.

This migration is Super Tuesday’s key dynamic. I think Obama will get the bulk of them.

Lee 1#

Yeah I saw that too, very interesting viewing that. I wonder how relevant it is and if Democratic voters are thinking along those lines?

this is pretty funny.
http://www.slate.com/id/2183594/

on a serious note it does make me think about how pre-determined my support for obama is and the extent of my own free-will. oh well, nothing i can do about it anyway.

apparently huckabee has taken west virginia with a little help from john mccain.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/west_virginia_intrigue.php#comments

Poor Romney, he wishes Huckabee wasn’t around to dig into his vote.

CNN is now stating that Huckabee’s taken West Virginia, with help from McCain! Will McCain take Huckabee as his running mate so he can shore up the social conservatives vote?

Heh this is crazy, a Twitter/Google Maps mash up allowing real time map based Twitter updates on the voting tonight!

http://maps.google.com/maps/mpl?moduleurl=http://www.google.com/mapfiles/mapplets/elections/2008/primary/primaries.xml&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-google-mp&utm_term=decision2008

I think Mass. will be a good, early indicator. If Romney does not win his home state by a substantial margin – ten, fifteen points – he will be holed below the waterline.

14. Lee Griffin

So, I guess the question is what is the timetable for tonight? When can we expect the results to really start flowing? I’m assuming that most polls haven’t closed yet

Some of them have already started coming in. On others, I expect that CNN and others will soon start making predictions once voting closes and exit polls come in.

Around 12am I’m going to start the interactive discussion applet on here. Come back then!

17. Lee Griffin

Well the software stood up to most things…it was working at the end I was just elsewhere! Certainly makes it more interesting to follow these things.


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