Vaz is a hack.

A politician with a track record of corruption in office who will leap onto any reactionary band wagon that will give him a second’s publicity. What kind of petty despot supports banning someone from entering the country without actually watching the thing he is being banned for?

That, Neil, would be because Vaz is a stooge and about as corrupt and illiberal as they come. He doesn’t know what to do unless it’s backing the government to the hilt in a monumental U-Turn in return for alleged new officers, or to carefully write out his outrage at the media industry in ironic attention giving fashion.

Vaz was very well prepared but for the wrong debate. In other circumstances, and without the two excellent protagonists, he may have fooled a few people.

Vaz has history as a censor, re Salman Rushdie’s _The Satanic Verses_. Surely such illiberalism and willingness to play race politics should have disqualified him as a Labour parliamentary candidate many years ago?

No Niel……” ill prepared….completely self destructed…..or just obliterated by othe members of the panel. NO
Its more like he was running out of legs to stand on.
Western Civilization has taken freedom of speech for granted for so long,that it has forgotten how hard it was to win and how hard to keep in the first place,and also how precious it is.
Freedom of speech was meant to protect people not religion,and it is the only thing that can protect us from religion.
Sometimes Muslims also need protection from Religion, and its when we forget that, we run the risk of embarrasing hypocracy.
With out the possibility to ridicule,insult and offend—-free speech has no meaning.
Islam is as we speak,at war with co-existence.Islam has no coulour, no ethnicity,no nation,no race, no nationality. A Muslim first alleigance is to Islam,an ideology.
It is quiet simply a historical accident that there are less white Muslims than non-white.
Where ever the techtonic plates of Islam rub up against something other than itself–there is conflict. Australia / PHillipines / Maylasia / Thailand / India / Pakistan / Afghanistan / Iraq / Turkey / Lebanon / Israel / Egypt / Nigeria / Sweden / Denmark / Chechnya / Britain / France / ect , ect.
it is the nature of the beast and the ” collective consciousness of its scriptures.

That was the most incredibly inept performance by a politician I’ve seen for a long time. ‘You can go to Holland’. Jesus Christ.

What is wrong with that man?

I first heard of Vaz when he marched ahead of a mob in support of the fatwa against Salman Rushdie and if there’s a hysterical and illiberal campaign against anything from alcohol to Grand Theft Auto you can bet that loathesome little man will sign up to it.

I decided that Vaz was a detestable fucking knob when he made his lying comments about the European Union, as you’d expect from someone beholden to the boss class.

Nothing has ever made me change my mind about him.

That, Neil, would be because Vaz is a stooge and about as corrupt and illiberal as they come. He doesn’t know what to do unless it’s backing the government to the hilt in a monumental U-Turn in return for alleged new officers, or to carefully write out his outrage at the media industry in ironic attention giving fashion.

Certainly, but what I don’t get is that – when judged purely as a media performance – he’s such completely wretched. We’ve all seen plenty of examples of politicians dressing the patently ridiculous up as perfectly reasonable. Here, Vaz makes the ridiculous look ridiculous, which is a pretty epic spinning fail. You and others on this thread may be right that there might not be any way of making decision seem like a good move. Perhaps the govts position is just unspinnable.

Of course, to point out that there are plenty of countries that Vaz can fuck off to where he wouldn’t be troubled by free speech could be constued as racist.

I agree that was a shameful debate. You can see why Boris was swearing at him using the f word so often. After watching this, I think that the c word might have been appropriate too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/borisjohnson/4606465/Boris-Johnsons-expletive-laden-rant-to-Keith-Vaz-transcript.html

‘Vaz’ is an all-purpose lubricant which appears in the work of Jeff Noon.

“Getting a Vaz,” Phrase, Place of origin: United Kingdom, date unknown.

Colloquialism referring to a radical new medical procedure where the entire spine is removed along with the parts of the brain required for “higher” thinking processes. Consequences of the procedure result in a sclerosis of the value, inflamation of the Brown Nosii and Toadius glands and necrosis of moral fibre.

While physically unchanged, verbal utterances take on a new quality. As well as being of a highly degraded value and completely nonsensical, they cause universally negative reactions in all those who hear them. Such utterances have caused depression, extreme projectile vomiting, dysentery, cardiac arrest and, in rare cases, leprosy. Such extreme reactions are hypothesised to be as a result of the huge amounts of the naturally occurring enzyme “Good Will” which is killed off when the subject speaks.

An effective remedy against the effects of these verbal utterances is to read Diane Abbott’s speech on 42 days. A vaccine has not yet been discovered, but scientists hope to test a prototype after 2010. The prototype works on the basis that if Leicester East elects a different MP, then we won’t have to put up with this rubbish any more.

Vaz went on because he likes being the community defender of brown people. In his Leicester constituency this will go down well.

Other than that, he was defending a decision made by Jacqui Smith, who should have been there. To be honest though, it’s no surprise the govt has become this illiberal – there’s a whole bunch of ppl who complain when the likes of Louis Farrakhan or al-Qaradawi come over. They are at least being consistent

Yes consistent and suicidal.
I wonder if anybody has worked out yet,that the ones you can safely let in are those who don,t have a haiir-trigger outrage reflex 3 million population base,that they can whip up into a frenzy.

Vaz has been an astute player of race politics for a long time. Hopefully he is at long last being seen for what he is. Hubris is beginning to take it’s toll.

“They are at least being consistent”

If you ignore the claims that the government let a spokesperson of Hezbollah come here to speak.

If you ignore the claims that the government let a spokesperson of Hezbollah come here to speak.

I don’t know much about that case specifically but there’s various points in that case that should be asked:
1) Was the person inciting hatred between people’s in the UK?
2) were they part of some govt coalition? (this may be true in Lebanon)

If we stopped allowing in politicos because they might be controversial then that’s half the world’s politicians barred from the UK.

“Vaz has been an astute player of race politics for a long time. Hopefully he is at long last being seen for what he is. Hubris is beginning to take it’s toll.”

Vaz won’t go anywhere. Labour need the votes, even if they are corrupt or racist.

Sunny @ 13:
“Vaz went on because he likes being the community defender of brown people. In his Leicester constituency this will go down well.”

Wikipedia reports that my city is 29.4% “Indian”, but don’t argue too much about that. In a few years, 50% of the population of Leicester will have an Indian or Afro Caribbean family background, the majority of those being born in the UK or being educated here. Will Vaz suddenly recreate himself as a defender of secular Punjabism, because it is the most popular brown statement?

What was that ? He was supporting the Fatwa against Rushdie and he is still in the country.
Hasn,t the Guardian called for his expulsion.
No wait a minute,,,,,,don,t do that,,,,,he might moblize 10,000 censors.

Because of the deafening silence…..I,m pretty sure everybody over there at ( Liberal Conspiracy )
is thinking….” who the fuck is this guy who keeps on sending these comments “.
Don,t worry,if it hadn,t have been for the Widers case,I doubt very much that I would have stumbled over your site.
I just wanted to take a look in and check to see if the British Multicultural Utopian Left were still intent on commiting ( cultural suicide )
Actually , reading through the comment section on the Wilders case, I am inclined to think that there is some sanity left. ( I;m a totalitarian-religion-ophobe ).
Best Regards
journeyman.

Thank you for your visit, journeyman.

Please assure yourself that the liberal left has not been taken over by nutters, and to use your words, we are not “still intent on commiting ( cultural suicide )”, whatever that means.

Best wishes.

With rent-a-quote MPs like Vaz we can rest secure in the knowledge that even Britain’s unwashed Sun-reading masses won’t elect another Labour government. Until they’re told to.

@ journeyman:
Nice,,,,punctuation; idiot.,;`