Dorries calls someone an abortion-issue zealot.

Cue deep intake of breath.

I’m enjoying more and more seeing Bercow in the chair. It really seems to be winding up those Tories!

It’s amazing really. How can people say we pick on Dorries, when she continues to pen such hyperbolic, jaundiced and suspicious shite?

I’ve written to the Today programme before to complain and I can tell you that you will probably not get a reply. Humphrys seems to find it harder and harder to hide his right-wing attitudes and this often manifests itself in either interviews which are free rides as mentioned here, or interviews which consist mainly of him barracking and cutting across (usually) Labour MPs.

If Humphrys is indeed rightwing, I have no problem with that. After all, James Naughtie has always been very Labour.

I fail to understand why she receives so much attention. Many Tories are embarrassed by her judging by past ConHome comments.

Evan Davis better than both.
Naughtie (especially) and Humphrys becoming unbearable.

Are you sure they don’t get her on simply to wind up the listeners in a misguided attempt to be ‘edgy’, interactive, provoke responses etc.
Often the best way of dealing with someone talking unacceptable cant and shite is simply to say, “yes, sure, very good, whatever” and quickly pass on by, not engaging, let alone taking what they say as a pillar for a conversation.

I’d just prefer they did their research rather than being right-wing or left-wing. This looks like lazy journalism.

We all know the reason she gets so much attention is because she is stupid but (according to some) attractive.

OK

Which Labour female MP would you put up against her in a glamour competition?

Yes, exactly.

If only she wouldn’t insist on talking………

Caroline Flint beats Dorries any day of the week. And she’s (albeit just slightly) less annoying…

Fellas – does every thread about female MPs on here have to reference shaggability? I’m glad to hear you’d give Caroline Flint one first, John, if she was in a queue with Nadine. Bet she’d be pleased to hear it, too.

Can I also make the point – if Nadine was on radio (not sure if the above was on telly or radio), nobody could see her, surely.

Blah.

How about a few of us girls post some interviews with influential women, and nobody mentions looks – just for the novelty value apart from anything else.

I propose to start with an interview with Ann Henderson, chair of abortion rights, re: BCAP’s proposal to permit advertising for abortion (have put a short post up at my site and will shortly add to it). We could talk about women who think, not ones who don’t, and not mention pretty faces, fannies, etc, even once.

Do us another favour too, and refrain from calling me a humourless menopausal die-hard, or crusty cunt, etc, when you’ve read this comment. Heard it all before, etc.

Love to all,

Kate

I guess it’s too naive to hope one day we will go beyond the way a woman looks…

“Fellas – does every thread about female MPs on here have to reference shaggability? ”

If it makes you feel any better I don’t rate Dorries in that dept.

I’m in agreement with Kate here. The focus on looks is not only silly but allows her to play the victim card when there are bigger issues at stake here.

I loved how she was basically saying “Labour picking Bercow was just playing party politics – TYPICAL LABOUR dontcha hate ‘em?”

Fair enough. She is a bit of alright though, and I’d agree with John B that Caz Flint is glamorous. Those “red dress” pics were a step too far though. That’s just trying too hard.

Oh sorry, I forgot to mention her looks in that last comment. Er… I wouldn’t, but she’s not bad for her age is she lads???

‘Fair enough. She is a bit of alright though, and I’d agree with John B that Caz Flint is glamorous. Those “red dress” pics were a step too far though. That’s just trying too hard.’

Jesus wept, Denim. That’s exactly the kind of comment that gets on my hoary old tits. Does nobody wank in private anymore?

Richard: you get three points for trying.

Ranters: tis not too much to hope for, my friend. Let’s go and get it.

Dunno, Neuro. Do you think she’s a real blonde?

Sorry, Kate. Was meant in a tongue-in-cheek fashion, no offence or sexism intended.

Notwithstanding that I’m in agreement with Kate (and no, we’re not siamese twins joined at the head), have any of you lot considered how weird it makes you look to even vocalise about shagging Nadine Dorries? The woman is a right-wing lunatic, and thus automatically about as attractive as a vat of yak sick.

Alan, my man, there’s plenty out there who’d fuck the crack of dawn. Yak cack would be a step up.

Pardon me for presuming, but would it be fair to say there’s a strand of male in this otherwise excellent nation that is a bit hung up on hard-faced rightwing birds? I’d be referring here to the type of bloke who wouldn’t have stepped over Maggie Thatcher if, as it were, she fell backwards in front of them. Maybe it’s the whole nanny-in-uniform, public school thing. My own husband can’t get enough of Mary Poppins (didn’t go to public school, though).

But Dorries does seem to trade on a glamourpuss image. Many Tory women have. Flint does too, but she seems comparatively rare amongst Labour women. OTOH, both sides have had their fair share of well-groomed, overly-coiffured men trading on their looks – Cameron and Blair being the most painfully obvious.

Maybe it’s the whole nanny-in-uniform, public school thing.

Oh gawd, yes. Also, somewhat Oedipal.

And in answer to the question Does nobody wank in private anymore? – no, not since webcams were invented.

Not saying it’s the same thing, but you get plenty of intelligent young ladies positively gushing over David Miliband, his brother Ed, and some even find Cameron attractive. That’s not even to mention the hordes who wished they could’ve done more than pull a lever for Obama. How is that any different to some men on blogs saying they find Dorries moderately attractive, for a politician at least?

If a man is just being hypothetical about any liaisons, then surely it doesn’t matter whether she is right-wing, left-wing, or no wing at all?

“Fellas – does every thread about female MPs on here have to reference shaggability? ”

Kate, we all know the male sex drive is pathetic, but I’m a lesbian.

Does that mean I’m allowed to fancy her or not?

If not, is that because she is good looking or because she is a Tory?

“Nadine Dorries is an arse”
“Do you mean she HAS a nice arse?”
“No I mean she’s a tit.”
“Do you mean she HAS nice tits?”
“No I mean she’s a twat…”

etc

@13, meh, I thought it was pretty obvious in the context that I was making the same point as Gregg @25. And it’s obviously true that Flint is a rarity within Labour for doing that, whereas Dorries is only notable for being unusually witless by the standards of glammed-up Tory women.

Is it just me, or is there more than hint of the Leslie Ash trout pout about that particular photo?

@ pagar: ‘Kate, we all know the male sex drive is pathetic..’

so true…

‘… but I’m a lesbian. Does that mean I’m allowed to fancy her or not?.’

No.

‘If not, is that because she is good looking or because she is a Tory?’

Both.

Unity – good point. Do you think we paid for that work…? Not so much a duck house but a duck gob…

surely if it’s sexist to fantasise about conjugal relations with Ms Dorries because of how she looks, it is equally sexist for someone to attack her for her looks?

Do us another favour too, and refrain from calling me a humourless menopausal die-hard, or crusty cunt, etc, when you’ve read this comment. Heard it all before, etc.

But, this begs the question, Kate – are you fit?

On a related point, if I were to compliment you on your looks Kate, would you find that sexist? Or if I asked you out? (No, I’m not actually doing that – and pretend I am the hypothetical man/woman that you wouldn’t immediately be repulsed by)

Kate

Good answers and thanks for taking the bait with such good humour.

Only kidding about the lesbian bit…….

‘But, this begs the question, Kate – are you fit?’

Well, in the day, Will, I got the odd shag with the light on, but I’m 40 now and my bikini line and tits almost meet (while standing). Personally, I think this is probably compelling, rather than attractive… but it might depend on your definition of fit…?

Denim – no, I wouldn’t find a positive comment about my looks sexist. I think I’d feel compelled to give anybody who made such a comment £20 (see above).

pagar – have you tried it?

but it might depend on your definition of fit…?

I am but a mere shallow male – one of the worlds great fap objects died today, when I was a boy she was dreams main construction, her and Jacqueline Smith.

So, instead of devolving into a discussion about the shaggability of Ms Dorries, this thread has devolved into a discussion about discussions about shaggability.

Is there any chance of it returning to the original subject?

If not, then I might as well put in my two-pennorth on the new subject, and say that I find it inexplicable that anyone can fancy senior politicians of either sex or any party.

“For the procedures enshrined in stone, brought about by Cromwell and abided by since?”

Sorry, but when exactly did Cromwell enshrine procedures in stone? He was a dictator. He forcibly removed MPs from Parliament.