https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/ Left-wing news, opinion and activism Wed, 02 Dec 2015 19:06:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.12 By: Scooby https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-209041 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:40:28 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-209041 Lenin – yes, I agree: Britain does have a long tradition of protest – the headline wasn’t mine. The truth is that this happens every generation or so. I’m 25. So it’s never happened in my time.

The biggest demonstrations in British history occurred just a few years ago, in protest to the invasion of Iraq. Perhaps you had a lie in and missed them.

(Of course, by the time “lenin’s” mob had led that mass movement into the blind alley of antinomian Trottery, the numbers willing to march had dwindled to an insignificant fraction. Perhaps there’s a lesson there with regard to the “comradely” relations the Leftists on this site have with the likes of the SWP.)

]]> By: Gareth https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208432 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:12:32 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208432 @9 “The fact is that gen Y have, for the first time in their lives, got off facebook and done some real activism. It says much about them that they have done so only out of self-interest, when their perceived “right” to a higher education is threatened.”

Despite the fact that many of those protesting won’t be affected because they will have left by the time the new fees come in? Or are too young to vote but will be directly affected by the education cuts and fees so have no other way of making their voice heard?

Nice try.

]]> By: Pauline Hammerton https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208423 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 09:33:29 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208423 RT @AdamRamsay: My pieces on @UKUncut today: on @Falseecon: http://bit.ly/fqb8vN, on @LibCon: http://bit.ly/dHNNiK & on @redpeppermag: h …

]]> By: UCL Geography https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208407 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 09:13:36 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208407 RT @PolDyn: Britons don’t normally join protests, but something has changed | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/jdFw5YM via @libcon

]]> By: Political Dynamite https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208388 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 08:20:37 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208388 Britons don’t normally join protests, but something has changed | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/jdFw5YM via @libcon

]]> By: Hash https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208385 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:50:02 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208385 Anti-cuts support grows. Public protest 4 political geeks? "people have reached a breaking point": @libcon: http://bit.ly/dHNNiK

]]> By: tamarisk https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208363 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 01:49:41 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208363 RT @libcon: Britons don't normally join protests, but something has changed http://bit.ly/dHNNiK

]]> By: Matt C https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208347 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 23:35:16 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208347 RT @AdamRamsay: My pieces on @UKUncut today: on @Falseecon: http://bit.ly/fqb8vN, on @LibCon: http://bit.ly/dHNNiK & on @redpeppermag: h …

]]> By: Mark M https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208336 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 23:06:02 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208336 @18 I’m with you. I don’t think it’s right these multi-millionaires should get to pay low or no taxes when I have to pay thousands of pounds a year. We should all pay low taxes.

It’s funny how much people have got their knickers in a twist over the completely legal action of tax avoidance. It is the legal right of every man, woman and child to pay as little tax as the law allows. I avoid tax by taking advantage of modest share offers at work. How soon until people come knocking at my door demanding I pay up?

]]> By: Matt Valler https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208327 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:34:56 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208327 RT @AdamRamsay: My pieces on @UKUncut today: on @Falseecon: http://bit.ly/fqb8vN, on @LibCon: http://bit.ly/dHNNiK & on @redpeppermag: h …

]]> By: Alex Scotney https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208328 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:33:42 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208328 RT @AdamRamsay: My pieces on @UKUncut today: on @Falseecon: http://bit.ly/fqb8vN, on @LibCon: http://bit.ly/dHNNiK & on @redpeppermag: h …

]]> By: UK Uncut https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208326 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:27:58 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208326 RT @AdamRamsay: My pieces on @UKUncut today: on @Falseecon: http://bit.ly/fqb8vN, on @LibCon: http://bit.ly/dHNNiK & on @redpeppermag: h …

]]> By: AdamRamsay https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208323 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:12:40 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208323 My pieces on @UKUncut today: on @Falseecon: http://bit.ly/fqb8vN, on @LibCon: http://bit.ly/dHNNiK & on @redpeppermag: http://is.gd/ifRCN

]]> By: Parasite https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208311 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:22:34 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208311 @3. I thought we had this in one of the previous threads – wives are to be declared chattels of their husbands, so that Philip Green’s Monaco-resident wife can be taxed in the UK. Serves ‘im right for giving succour to the evil ConDems and all that.

Before anyone flames me for being sneery, what do you expect? I don’t see any other mechanism being proposed here for HMRC getting at Mrs Green, unless the point of the protests is just to be self-righteous without achieving anything. I really can’t see the left doing that.

]]> By: Sparky https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208300 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 20:38:43 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208300 @19

Agreed.

]]> By: paul barker https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208278 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:40:42 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208278 Mr Ramsey seems to be very new to politics, its only 3 years since 2 Million took the streets against Labours War in Iraq. The biggest march in the current wave was 50 thousand, smaller by a factor of 40.
The new thing about the recent protests is the willingness to resort to violence right from the off.

]]> By: Matt Munro https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208256 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 17:33:16 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208256 @14 I haven’t read private eye since Major was in power. You may well be right about Vodafone, but the point I was trying to make is that some people seem to use “tax evasion”, “tax dodging” and “tax avoidance” as more or less interchangeable terms, when the fact is they are legally very different

]]> By: Property tax loans https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208250 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 17:23:51 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208250 Time to stand up for lower taxation.

]]> By: atc_ https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208241 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:40:49 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208241 RT @libcon: Britons don't normally join protests, but something has changed http://bit.ly/dHNNiK

]]> By: Arthur Thistlewood https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208237 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:29:13 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208237 15: “If you cannot prove that they dodged tax in court, why should I believe that they have dodged tax?”

I’m pretty sure Vodafone was found to have evaded tax by courts in not one but two jurisdictions! We can argue how much intent there was on the part of Vodafone to evade tax as opposed to what they thought was legal avoidance. But in both the UK and India they have been lawfully found to have outstanding tax bills that they claimed not to have.

“If you can prove that they dodged tax in court, get on with it and sue them.”

Yes, I think it would be good for HMRC to enter into talks with Vodafone about getting the tax bill repaid. It should be a simple task, and I’m sure the bill will be paid in full so long as nothing untoward…oh.

]]> By: Be_Humble https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208230 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:14:49 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208230 As a Middle Class we are screwed because of the actions of the top 5% wealthiest who are more obssessed amassing £billions so that their faces appear on the front of Forbes Magazine than assist in sorting this financial mess. THey take every opportunity to pay less taxes as if this will undermine their lifestyle!!!!

]]> By: Rachel Hubbard https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208225 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:03:30 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208225 BritsDontNormallyJoinProtestsSomethingsChanged http://t.co/gqfAtX4 @libcon DCSmugResponse2MillbankDemo“EveryGovtHasProtests”(NotAtThisLevel)

]]> By: ad https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208215 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:53:24 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208215 If you cannot prove that they dodged tax in court, why should I believe that they have dodged tax?

If you can prove that they dodged tax in court, get on with it and sue them.

]]> By: Sparky https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208198 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 14:41:21 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208198 @10 Matt.

” “Tax evaders” generally are, eventually, held to account – made to pay back taxes, fined and sometimes prosecuted. This is because tax *evasion* is illegal.”

Really? I take it that you haven’t been reading the ongoing saga of the Vodaphone tax “negotiations” reported in Private Eye then.

]]> By: Sunny Hundal https://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/05/britons-dont-normally-join-protests-now-they-are/#comment-208179 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:51:43 +0000 https://liberalconspiracy.org/?p=20087#comment-208179 The goal of reducing tax avoidance to some communally agreed reasonable level is shining in the distance. What’s the plan?

Alix – the plan is to keep up the public limelight on tax avoidance until the govt is forced to do something about it. It’s best to keep certain goals simple.

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