Excl: Labour AM calls for EDL ban to be revoked


by Sunny Hundal    
11:30 am - September 11th 2011

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London Labour Assembly Member Murad Qureshi has called for the ban on the English Defence League from marching to be revoked.

In a letter to the Met Police’s acting commissioner Tim Godwin, passed on to Liberal Conspiracy, he says the ban achieved nothing and calls on him to “reconsider the Met’s position on this issue”.

He told Liberal Conspiracy he was uncomfortable with the “far reaching” impact of the ban, after being initially for it.

On his own blog, he writes:

I found myself being put in my place my a local Bengali boy, off Brick Lane. He simply said to me “What EDL march ban? They were still able to come and make their presense felt and insult my families faith” when I asked his views on the march the day before.

In his letter to the Godwin he says the ban might also impact other planned processions and marches in East London.

While the Met have said the ban would not affect long-standing events, the order gives them the power to pull any event if they see fit.

The ban on marches and demonstrations – applicable for 30 days and signed by Home Secretary Theresa May – affects five boroughs in East London.

Letter to Tim Godwin Re EDL March

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The problem for those that called for the ban is that Adrian Tudway, National Co-ordinator for Domestic Extremism, Adrian Tudway, National Co-ordinator for Domestic Extremism, said he formed the view the EDL were not extreme after reading their website, and the Metropolitan police obtained a ban against a planned march through east London by the EDL, fearing clashes with anti-fascist groups and also the prospect of British Muslim youths taking to the streets to defend their communities against feared racist attacks. You’ll notice that the prospect of people coming to defend their streets against fascists is apparently of greater concern than the fascists themselves.

The anti-racists and anti-fascists called for a ban under the assumption that the Government and the Met were against the EDL and what they stand for, when clearly it looks more like the other way around. How can you form the view that a group, that on it’s marches consistently tries to break off piecemeal to begin running street battles with the locals, isn’t an extremist group due to maintaining an orderly website? Boggles the mind.

Good for Murad Quershi – let us hope more follow his lead.

3. Leon Wolfeson

@2 – Guessing you won’t be in counter-demonstration needed then…

4. Richard Harrison

It’s patently clear that the so-called liberals have no real idea of what is really happening.

In what way did the EDL insult Islam…..perhaps they told the truth in front of the people…that Islam is homophobic. Even Peter Tatchell who bravely turned up to oppose the EDL was threatened by Muslims and his co-leftists gave him the cold shoulder and told him he was not welcome! Yet it was the EDL who were there to protest at the homophobia that is rampant in Tower Hamlets. They were there to support the gay community. Something the Leftard liberals were clearly not willing to do. As for the EDL wanting violence. Far from it. I guess you’ve never been to an EDL protest. These days, the violence comes solely from the leftist UAF (should be called (United against Freedom), and it’s Muslim sidekicks. At Tower Hamlets the only violence came from the Muslims and the UAF as they bravely took on one lone defenceless woman. Yes very provocative of the EDL to come to Tower Hamlets to protest at the homophobia in Tower Hamlets, the way that corruption and electoral fraud are being overlooked and may be even encouraged , how the islamisation of the borough is continuing unabated, how non-muslim women are being threatend for not wearing Niqabs, hijabs or burkas.

It’s time the liberal left stopped playing at theories – theories which clearly don’t work and look at what is really happening.

The Socialists are waging a class war against the very class they claim they
were created to defend and liberate from the evils of capitalism.

You so-called liberals are not prepared to have grown up debate about the real issues, of over population and the impact of mass immigration, you are not prepared to talk about why the working classes are increasingly disaffected, you are not prepared to talk about why only one section of immigrants have consistently failed to integrate, why that one group leads head and shoulders in the crime statistics as a ratio of the population, why that one section of the community completely fails to find work, or why it completely fails educationally.

You disparage the EDL and the try to kill meaningful debate by bandying epithets such as ‘racists’, ‘bigots’, ‘thugs’, ‘Nazi’s’ and so on. It’s a sure sign that you’ve already lost the debate. Intellectually you so-called liberals are nothing more than self-hating, truth-hating, racists who are more interested in what the Guardian prints than in actual debate and civilised reasoning.

As for the EDL wanting violence. Far from it. I guess you’ve never been to an EDL protest. These days, the violence comes solely from the leftist UAF (should be called (United against Freedom), and it’s Muslim sidekicks.

That would explain how at the Blackpool EDL march there were several arrests for disturbances by EDL members and not a single arrest of the UAF counter-protesters…

Un-ban the march and then what? Have a Lewisham 1977 style riot?

7. Leon Wolfeson

@4 – A typical defence of the far right.

All I can say is that if Cable Street is re-fought, I’ll be on the other side to you. As a Jew. Call me names, it makes it quite clear who is the primary enemy of civilisation.

A few poster-stickers, universally condemned, can be dealt with at a local level, thousands of thugs marching cannot. Your right-wing theories are doing SO well, in fact, that they’ve primed this country into a powder-keg. Congratulations, you’re intolerant.

“At Tower Hamlets the only violence came from the Muslims and the UAF ”
This is obvious nonsense. Eg from the Metro “EDL supporters threw missiles and were involved in a series of scuffles with police, leading to 16 arrests for affray, assaulting a police officer and drunk and disorderly.”
Also from edlnews “To add insult to injury they were again largely ignored by the media, those journalists that did turn up got assaulted (one sexual assault accordiing the the NUJ and one having had his clothes set on fire by an EDL member with a can of lighter fluid) and one chap got five months in prison for attacking a police officer. “

@2 ”Good for Murad Quershi – let us hope more follow his lead.”
He seems mostly concerned at the blanket ban affecting other parades and events, not so much the EDL one. I think he would just have like the EDL one to be banned by the sounds of it.
Not the same opposition to the foolish Anjem Choudary and his mates being abusive at the American embassy yesterday. No UAF, no huge police operation – nothing really. When the levels off offensivness are about the same.

@7 Intolerance is in ample supply both right and left, as your inability to engage with @4 argument suggests.

Oh wait a sec.. you mentioned you were a Jew for no reason at all. Thats means you must be an expert on all things intolerance. Well done

11. Leon Wolfeson

@10 – No reason? No, of course not, it can’t POSSIBLY be relevant to my opposition to far-right groups I’m Jewish. Not at all. And why would I “engage” with someone for who I am the enemy?

Thanks for showing where you stand. It’s not in the street, against the EDL if necessary, I see.

@11 – I stand on the side of common sense, and if someones acting the fool im happy to point it out. Yes even if that person is disabled.

13. English Dentist Legion

Oh the EDL, always gives the right wingers and the pretend liberals a bulge in their pants. Such brutes arent they, can make a man weak at the knees.

Insult his religion?! GOOD!

ALL religions should be insulted, mocked and held up to the light of reason.
Supernatural garbage is just that. Sane people laigh at such rubbish.

But when your supernatural fairy tale guff blows itself up in planes, trains and buses, when it spits hate and (often literal) death to everyone from Gays, women, non-believers and those that want to leave it, when it informs Governmental policy, Laws of the land and the freedom to even walk down a street in safety….Laughter is not enough.
Insult and ridicule should indeed ring out!

And if you don’t like that…VANISH to Iran or Saudi. If not, shut your mouth and keep your dark ages fairy stories and all the hate and oppression that goes with them TO YOURSELF!

And when the EDL has an Islamic body count (in just the UK alone) I’ll see them as any kind of threat to my and my family’s life and liberty!
Until then…I’d have them in the streets rather then Islamic nuts.

15. Leon Wolfeson

And the neo-nazis come out to play.

Yes….Neo Nazis.

Very true. Of course.
Saying a barbaric ideology that routinely mistreats, abuses and murders gay men, women, children and all ‘others’ should be faced down and taken on is really a Nazi standpoint!
You people.

And given the historical links between Islam and Nazism (even today…with pro-Nazi placards/Swastikas being seen at the recent mob gatherings in Egypt) and given the fact your Commie scum oppresse and kkilled more people for so much longer than anything the Nazi’s could have hoped for….Criticism from turds like you is a joke.

17. Peter Tatchell

In reply to Richard Harrison:

In truth, only a small number of fellow leftists criticised me at the anti-EDL demo on 3/9. Some other left-wingers were supportive of my condemnation of far right Islamists (and of the EDL). The rest were neutral. I don’t know what they felt. Equally, some Muslims defended me. Only a minority tried to stop me. I am not aware what the majority of Muslims thought.

I am not trying to exonerate anyone. I just think it is important to be aware of the facts and speak to the evidence. Let’s not generalise about the left or Muslims.

NB: Much as I oppose the EDL, I was one of the few left-wingers who did not support a march ban. The EDL can’t be defeated by censorship and the suppression of civil liberties. They can be defeated by exposing their bigotry and violence (where is the detailed, comprehensive dossier that does this?) and by mass peaceful protests against them. 50,000 people in Whitechapel Road on 3/9 would have been much more effective than the Tory march ban. It would have been a very powerful statement of community solidarity against the EDL. It is a pity that UAF and Hope Not Hate did not support ‘people power’ against the EDL.

16, unfortunately true,

9 it’ s too late to un bna the EDL as other demos have been banned,
for the record the only sensible thing aobut banning the EDl was police didn’t have the resources to protect them witness the broken down van in Mile end being attacked.

19. Leon Wolfson

@16 – Yes, you’re describing the various European Neo-Nazi movements targets perfectly, you just forgot to add in Jews, non-White people and anyone who looks at them funny.

Commie Scum? Right, because the Nordic Nations are commies. You really don’t have any connection to the real world, you’re just another rabid bigot.

@17 – The problem is likely to be that the police would be on the same side as they were in Cable street, sadly, in these days of politicised policing.

20. john P reid

17 the police weren’t on anyones side at cable street, and when the EDl were atacked in Mile End, who did the police arrest teh people who beat the EDL woman up, Or the EDl supproters whose only crime was breaking down in an area they shouldn’t have been.?

Tatchell disappoints.

“”They can be defeated by exposing their bigotry and violence “”
Who? Muslims?

It’s not the EDL holding meetings with ‘kill the gays’ preachers as honoured guests.
It’s not the EDL putting up ‘gay free zone’ stickers in the Islamic black hole that was once the Eat End of London.
It’s not International branches of EDL ideology hanging gay men in Iran.

That the EDL has dubious members is true. That those dubious members will be generally bigoted and Homophobic is true.
As you would find in fact in any ‘club’ or group.

But the FACT is the EDL are have not got anti-gay policies.
And they have never (as far as I know) targeted in any form Homosexuals.

Can you say that about the Islam? Or in fact most religions?
No.

So actually, weather you like them or not, you should be damn closer to an EDL march against the rampant and blatant Islamification that is taking place in so many of our cities (not just London) than any Communist linked/Islamist supporting ‘UAF’ rally or any Muslim rally.

But the FACT is the EDL are have not got anti-gay policies.

No I expect they openly wont, what with gay people being such a useful tool with which to beat Muslims with. Bet they don’t rush to gay people’s rescue when groups other than Muslims are putting the boot in though.

As an aside one of my old school chums has become a full frothing member of the EDL, so my facebook status updates have become FAR more interesting of late, I quite liked this particular gem:

SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT … If you cross the North Korean border illegally, you get 12 yrs. hard labor. If you cross the Afghanistan border illegally, you get shot. Two Americans just got eight years for crossing the Iranian border. If you cross the UK border illegally you get a job, a drivers license, food stamps 4 tesco, a place to live, health care, housing & child benefits, education, & a tax free business for 7 yrs …No wonder we are a country in debt. Re-post if you agree

EDL member there, comparing the UK unfavourably to North Korea, Afghanistan and Iran. Perhaps she should go live there…

Cylux…you bore me.

Again…

It’s not the EDL holding meetings with ‘kill the gays’ preachers as honoured guests.
It’s not the EDL putting up ‘gay free zone’ stickers in the Islamic black hole that was once the Eat End of London.
It’s not International branches of EDL ideology hanging gay men in Iran.

And oh yeah…although not a 100% absolute of course.
Is he really lying?

“If you cross the UK border illegally you get a job, a drivers license, food stamps 4 tesco, a place to live, health care, housing & child benefits, education, & a tax free business for 7 yrs”

Basic fact checking shows how true that is/has been.

But you derail the discussion ANYWAY.
Islam is not any kind of race. Or any kind of skin colour. Or any kind of nationality.

Bye bye now.

25. Leon Wolfson

@20 – What absolutely rot. The police were VERY much on the marcher’s side at Cable Street. Historical revisionism, just like your other conspiracy theory.

@22 – …Food stamps? They can’t even stick to lying about things that exist.

“Food stamps? They can’t even stick to lying about things that exist.”

So you have no actual comebacks. GOOD.

And actually..If you have a baby you do indeed get food vouchers (close enough to stamps) for free milk and fruit.
Oh dear…..Silly you.

27. Leon Wolfson

None? Oh, right, you’re ignoring the truth being completely different from your racist claptrap. Keep trying to find ways to dig deeper, though!

racist!??

LMAO! Oh no! i think the hole digger is you.

WHAT race am I being racist against?

The Black African Muslims in prison on terrorism charges?
The Asian Muslims in prison on terrorism charges?
The Arab Muslims in prison on terrorist charges?
the WHITE Muslims in prison on terrosrist charges?

Well? COme on fool. Foll who brings up the farce of ‘racism’ again.
WHAT RACE IS IT AGAIN?!

Fucking idiot.

29. Leon Wolfson

Oh look, it’s managed to confuse a religion with a particular political philosophy again. Most of the people in prison are nominally Christian, hence Christians commit all crime under your “reasoning”.

Never mind the EDL’s white supremacist agenda, no.

Gotta love these guys who cloak their racism by pretending it’s only culture they’re concerned about.

I’m not entirely sure how someone who manages to casually lump Yasmin Alibhai-Brown in with Anjem Choudary then walks away thinking they’re anything other than a small-minded tosspot, but well, there we are then.

27 is it racist to say that there are Asian people in tower hamlets putting up “gay free zone “stickers

32. So Much For Subtlety

30. Cylux

I’m not entirely sure how someone who manages to casually lump Yasmin Alibhai-Brown in with Anjem Choudary then walks away thinking they’re anything other than a small-minded tosspot, but well, there we are then.

I don’t think anyone should do it casually, but what is odd about doing it reasonably? They both come from fairly secular, fairly Westernised but Muslim backgrounds. Anglophone even. Their childhoods were probably very similar. There is likely to be a considerable cultural overlap. Some of that is likely to remain even if their political paths have diverged radically. I am not even that sure their paths have diverged that radically – a soft-ish dislike of the West has taken Andy into Islamism, while YAB has remained more or less where they both started.

To draw a parallel – a lot of Russian Jews probably disliked the Tsar, the Cossacks and the Black Hundreds. They probably kept that dislike even if they left the Shtetl and became Marxists. In fact that dislike probably insured they skipped over all the moderate options and went from one extreme to the other. The ultra-Orthodox and the manic Trot may look very different in their politics, but it would be undeniable they continued to share many assumptions.

The fools again.

You may notice I said MUSLIM TERRORISTS in prison. Not just ‘Asians’.

So Ms (I hate whites) Brown has nothing to do with it. YOU brought her up!

The point is made though. And you ignore it.

What RACE am I supposedly racist against?
DESCRIBE IT!

Is it the fat fuck WHITE, BRITISH convert scum who was put away for Islamic terrorism just last week?

You sad idiots! You appeasing traitors. Islam is no race. Muslims are no race. Therefore there can be no racism in attacking Islam.
And if you say so…again…Describe this so called race!

@31 Are there? I was under the impression that an Asian youth put those stickers up, which were condemned by many local Muslim and Asian groups, and was subsequently apprehended by the police with assistance from the locals.

I also put it to you that slapping stickers everywhere in a section of a city – when cities generally have all sorts of assorted scraps and posters advertising this, declaring that, all about the place – isn’t really that big of a deal, probably comparable to leaving chick tracts strewn about, and certainly not worth demonising a whole minority group over.

34 no one said that mentioning that An Asain Muslim put up a gay free zone sticker was “demonising” people, and its’ no different to putting chick tracts, Oh I didn’t know that putting chick tracts incited homophobic hatred!

@35 Depends which one you dish out to be honest.

I mean this one is far more offensive than “gay free zone” stickers:- http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5003/5003_01.asp

“”‘when cities generally have all sorts of assorted scraps and posters advertising this, declaring that, all about the place – isn’t really that big of a deal, “”"

Sums you up and shows your true agenda.

So because general posters/flyers are all over the place it’s no big deal to for posters declaring, in the name of religious Law’, that Homosexuals (who have never blown people up on any trains or buses in the name of Gay Pride) are not welcome or indeed allowed to walk the streets.

Really?!

Again you show your true Commie agenda. You hate The West so much, you cling on to Communist hate so much, that you would even shrug away such vile attacks on a completely innocent group of individuals by fanatic religious zealots.
Just because they hate The West as much as you.

You shame the very fucking air we both breathe. You are as bad as any executioner in Iran, or suicide bomber. Because you are the PR wing of the most illiberal entity on the globe today and do as much damage to our freedoms and values as any Muslim terrorist.

And the other sad FACT is..If Islam was mostly made up of Western white people you would be attacking it as much as you attack the BNP or EDL or the Tea Party.
But because Islam is mostly non-white (and guess what idiots ‘Non-White’ is NOT A RACE!) and not of The West (and hates your old enemy America) you defend and excuse it! You join it!
You MAKE UP a race to defend attacks on it!
You literally go against basic biology and science itself to declare A RELIGION a race! Just so you can stop criticism of it!

You are shameful.

@38 Bearing in mind those stickers were put up by one eighteen year old youth who was apprehended by the police with the cooperation from local Muslims who were outraged at the stickers too.

However feel free to continue demonstrating your admiral sense of proportion with such lines as “You are as bad as any executioner in Iran, or suicide bomber. Because you are the PR wing of the most illiberal entity on the globe today and do as much damage to our freedoms and values as any Muslim terrorist.”

Yes. I’m sure one youth was solely responsible for the designing, printing, and distribution of these posters!
Idiot.

Oh look! It seems that yet again an actual Islamic holy man fails to understand his own religion of peace.

http://europenews.dk/en/node/47273
“Imam calls to kill converts on Radio Sweden”.

Now what would happen if some EDL spokesman said such a thing.
I love the appeasing of Islam by Lefty fools is constantly undermined by Islam itself!
LMFAO!

41. Leon Wolfson

@40 – Oh look, an EDL racist inciting racial hatred in this very thread.

Inciting racual hatred?
Where?

What remote incitement is there anywhere?
Well?
Oh look…NONE!
Well, except by the Imman in the article that is! LOL!

And again… IDIOT…where is this race you speak of?

You could at least describe what this supposed race looks like and comes from in the most basic of terms surely?
After all it’s such a well defined race I can supposedly be racist against it!

Muslims are as much of a race as the Catholics!
But far from being an actual race..like The English!

Dig that hole deep boy. I like the sight of your commie arse down there.

And actually fool i’m nothing to do with the EDL in any way, shape, or form.

But I do know the meaning of the word priority when it comes to ensuring the safety of me, my family and my country.
None of which are, or ever have been, under any kind of threat from the likes of the EDL!
Now, Muslims with suicide vests though. well that’s another matter ain’t it…

44. john P reid

jim boy godwins second law if you lose the debate you call some one a EDL racist

45. Leon Wolfson

@42 – We can start with your racism against me.

46. Jimboydavey

So being a commie is a race now is it?
Seeing as I do not know your fucking race, commie cunt, I could hardly have targeted it!

Any desperate shit because I’ve blown your appeasing agenda apart with hard facts you can’t dispute! Job fucking done!!

47. Leon Wolfson

@46 – Ah yes, you have to call anyone who disagrees with your fascism a communist, how typically charming.

Only in your head have you done anything but display your hated, your bigotry and your anti-Semitism. You are a prime example of why the EDL needs to be banned, utterly, and hard.

What are you bleating on about!?
Where the he’ll have I mentioned Jews!???

Actually it is me, you Islamic appeasing slime, who pointed out the fact Muslims in Egypt when they attacked the Israeli embassy were waving signs with swastikas on them!
Me! I pointed this out! Just as I have pointed out time and time again the links between Islam and nazism. Me who punted out the Nazi/Jew hating slogans shown at various islamic/lefty gatherings!

I’ve never said anything against Jews you fucking dullard. And I don’t appease the hateful Islamic ideology that is indeed anti-Semite. YOU do though!
LMAO!

49. Leon Wolfson

@18 – You’ve been abusive towards at least one Jew. And there have been quite a few incidents between your beloved EDL and the Jewish communities in their path. Violent incidents. And strangely enough, none of them were started by the Jews.

And links between Islam and Nazism? Hahahaha. Oh my, is that your excuse for your fascism… you have no idea about the principles of National Socialism, and you remain completely unable to tell the difference between Islam and Islamism, hence EDL attacks on Muslims who wouldn’t hurt a fly.

No, no, keep up the stream of abuse and the xenophobic bigotry. You’re a far better advocate for banning the EDL than I am.

You’re a fool and a liar.

IF you are Jewish…I do not know it. I’m ‘abusive’ to you because you (IRONY ALERT) excuse and appease Islam. I care not one bit you’re Jewish…you moron.
Why? Because Jews are not blowing up my country or calling for Jewish law, or swamping my country and turning it into a medieval Islamic crap hole!

And I like how Mr So Called Liberal wnats the EDl bannned. Along with the BNP too I suppose.
I guess the stinking English are not allowed any representation at all!
And do not say that yes they can just not ‘racists’…well to you scum, you Lefty commie apologists, even representing the English IS racism no matter what!

And if you donlt know of the Grand Mufti’s links to Hitler, the Muslim Waffen SS division in the Balkans, the ENDLESS Nazis signs and slogans paraded by Muslims around the world NOW…then you need a lesson pal!

I’m the only person on here NOT constantly attacking Jews in fact! Like your MUSLIM friends do on a daily basis.

Fool and hypocrite.

51. Leon Wolfson

@50 – And your ignorance is your excuse how?

Some Islamists are my enemies. You are also my enemy. I know this is a shocking concept, but I don’t condemn entire groups of people who don’t behave as my enemy simply because they’re different from me.

That’s the mindset of the 9/11 bombers, which you share with the Islamists. It’s called fanaticism, and it’s the enemy of civilisation.

Again – You’re abusive, you’re intolerant and you’re a perfect example of why the EDL needs to be banned. Along with militant Islamist groups. The same response for the same kind of hatred!

LMAO!

Again…The Commies side with the fascists.

They did it when they jumped into bed with The Nazis (until they were hysterically stabbed in the back) to invade and kill alongside them.
And they jump into bed with Islamic fascists now (who still like to wave swastikas around and calls Jews fossil fuel at ‘moderate’ mob gatherings with Lefty idiots in attendance).

And you have the balls to say you don’t condemn entire groups! You condemn the entire EDL!
And UNLIKE ISLAM the EDL have not called for Gays and Jews to be killed…which is the norm (along with insults like ‘pigs’) from many a Muslim holy man even in the UK.

And also UNLIKE ISLAM the EDL (which I am nothing to do with fuckard) have no specific set of beliefs based on one exact same book and exact same writings completely unchaged in overr 1500 years!
There are not various versions of the Hadith or the Quran!
The EDL have no Bible or Quran,,,and yet you condemn them as a group while defending Islam which does indeed have it’s unchanged book of rules that ALL of them believe in.

If anything is a global belief block it’s fucking Islam!! Not the EDL, you hypocritical fool.

You appease and apologise for a religious doctrine that is EXACTLY the same all over the globe as it’s based on the EXACT SAME book that it is forbidden to change, edit or question!
And you bleat on about the EDL as some kind of one belief block!
LMAO!

And the irony is YOU and all those other Lefty, fake Liberal, idiots and quislings who invented the EDL!
A couple of years ago they did not even exist!
YOU made them.

YOU made them by appeasing, apologising and defending Islam and it’s blatant quest as Islamification of the UK for so long and to such an extent that in the end the EDL was born!
And YOU and your lot fucked my country (when Liberals should have been fighting the illiberal ideology of Islam…not helping it) and the result was the birth of the EDL.

Christianity was reformed when the Liberals mocked and attacked it. They led the way.
But with Islam the Liberals (so called) did the opposite…they instead called for respect of Islam and defended even the most absurd supernatural garbage and real world atrocity carried out in its name!
YOU BETRAYED LIBERAL THOUGHT.
YOU JOINED THE ILLIBERAL ENTITY INSTEAD OF FIGHTING IT AND CALLING FOR IT TO CHANGE!

So don’t you dare lecture me!
As it is me and people like me who stand up for our fellow infidels, who stand up for Jews, Gays and women…while people like you hold hands with that which persecutes them all on a daily, global, scale.

Look in the mirror and feel the shame.

Well. That’s me told for thinking half of the Iraq quagmire was due to religious sectarianism since apparently “a religious doctrine that is EXACTLY the same all over the globe as it’s based on the EXACT SAME book that it is forbidden to change, edit or question!”.
That’s the Sunni’s and Shi’ite’s told as well.

OH LOOK! Must be bunch of EDL members…Oh…Hold on…no it’s not.
Must be…er…..hmmm……..Buddhists?

Oh no, of course not! FUCKING MUSLIMS, OF COURSE.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/19/anti-terrorist-police-arrest-birmingham

“Six arrested in Birmingham counter-terrorism raids”

British cities becoming Islamic terrorist ghettos? Racist Islamophobia!!!!!

And look…as always the weak willed UK media (like LC) is happy to call the people ‘British’ (yeah…right..not in my eyes) and Pakistani (Christian Pakistanis???????) but not MUSLIM.
Which is in fact the ONLY description that is 100% accurate as well as relevant!

The EDL?! Yeah…a real threat.

55. Leon Wolfson

Exactly, you don’t see anyone not of the right blood as British.

Thanks for admitting that. Never mind they’re citizens in today’s modern tolerant society, it’s good old fashioned National Socialism – the right people are the ruling class, everyone else is sub-human.

There is only one underclass as far as I’m concerned, the intolerant. You’re a part of it.

Jeeeeesus! You really do not get it do you!

“”Exactly, you don’t see anyone not of the right blood as British.”"

Blood has nothing at all to do with my statement.
Being a (possible) traitor and a (possible) combatant against Britain DOES!
IDIOT!

If they had all been stupid WHITE BRITISH converts I would still have said the same thing! Because RACE is only on YOUR mind it seems.
So stop the desperate smear campaign you sad Trot apologist.

There’s more to be being British than where your Mother (whatever race she might have been) spread her legs and pushed you out!
But of course you don’t get that do you? Pride and loyalty mean nothing to you.

And hey…Once again it seems Ilam itself foils your plans at appeasing and apologising for it.
Just as you think you have laughably painted the EDL as the greatest threat to life and liberty in the UK………Islam yet again shows you the truth.

Six EDL members arrested on terrorist charges?
NOPE.

Dozens and dozens of attacks, attempted attacks and planned attacks by the EDL?
NOPE.

Hundreds of EDL members convicted of terrorist charges?
NOPE.

Over a 1000 EDL members currently being watched by the security forces as possible threats to the UK?
NOPE.

Oh dear. I expect you’ll try again though.

57. Leon Wolfson

@56 – Well, you’re definitely an enemy of Britain, so…

You deny the basics of nationality law, of our ties to the Commonwealth, of the history of Britain as a trading nation.

The EDL most certainly IS being watched by the intelligence services, they’re not the “dumb services”, extremist are dangerous no matter what their creed. And there have been plenty of EDL members charged with offences.

58. Dave the Teller of ALL

“And there have been plenty of EDL members charged with offences.”

LMAO! Yeah. All those suicide bombings, bomb plots, threats to behead people…Yeah…Loads of EDL terrorists in prison. LMAO!

GIVE IT UP! You desperate cunt. You lousy apologist. You illiberal defender. You quisling.
GIVE IT UP. Your attempts to whitewash the true Islamic threat the entire Western world faces by shouting abuse at the utterly insignificant EDL is an utter farce.

You appease the illiberal. You are an enemy of liberal thought and freedom hard fought for.
YOU are the enemy of evolution and the ally of religious barbarity that will drag us back centuries.


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