One hard-and-fast rule when examining Borisite runes is ‘if you think he’s on your side he’s conned you’. This goes for dim libertorians like Thicky Phibbs as much as anyone who thinks this conversion on the road to Delhi matters a damn. Anyway, he’ll say the complete opposite in his Telegraph column next week and the base will lap it up as usual.

The intervening week may provide an amusing interregnum for tweaking the tails of the usual suspects but no more. Boris is just not a trustworthy man, as the business fraternity will find out.

Labour cannot afford to lose an EU referendum

Huh? There will be Labour people on both sides in any referendum.

if Labour want Britain to stay within the EU – their only hope is to get the business community strongly on side and get them to spend a ton of money lobbying everyone that leaving the EU would hurt the economy and cost jobs

Exactly the message pushed out to try and bounce us into the Euro. Wrong then, wrong now.

Boris and all tories are just puppets to their corporate masters. We will leave the EU when our corporate masters say we will leave.

Boris Johnson is a sexually louche and pro-drugs American citizen. He is an Ottoman aristocrat of very recent extraction, who has publicly recited the Shahada in Arabic. He believes that Christianity overthrew a superior civilisation (slavery, pederasty, the games), and he sees the means to putting things right as being a European Union of which the most populous member-state would be Turkey.

As the voice of big business Eurofederalism and unrestricted immigration, no less than as the voice of big business social liberalism and as the proponent of decidedly eccentric theological and historical opinions, Johnson is a kind of British Mitt Romney. But as with Romney, desperate members of his beleaguered party will go to any lengths whatever in order to try and convince themselves that he is some sort of conservative, despite mountains of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.

Johnson’s was his party’s sole victory at this year’s local elections, in these Islands’ only city where hardly any primary school children speak English at home, and in no small measure due to organised communal voting by a heavily concentrated ethnic minority with closer ties to a foreign and fairly hostile state than, manifestly, to the overwhelming bulk of their own nominal compatriots.

But even the members of that ethnic minority voted Labour for the Greater London Assembly on the same day, just as the inhabitants of Chipping Norton were voting Labour, and just as Labour was taking 60 per cent and more of the votes cast in Southern villages that it had not contested in 30 years, if ever. Yes, including under Tony Blair.

And, like David Cameron and George Osborne, Johnson is a member of an organisation which exists specifically in order to commit criminal damage and other offences, even including assault, just so that its members can prove their ability to pick up the bill. Imagine if a group of youths the same age, but who got up at six o’clock in the morning to pay for universities, were to organise themselves into a club, complete with a membership list, officers, some sort of uniform, the works, all for the express purpose of smashing up pubs. They would rightly be prosecuted as a criminal conspiracy, and they could reasonably expect to be imprisoned.

Mayor of London? President of the Third World Banana Republic of London, more like it. Under no circumstances must he ever become the Prime Minister of what would therefore become the Third World Banana Republic of Britain. Nor will he.

This is another Sunny-special no-news story: Boris takes nuanced line on EU membership, like Cameron, like Millipede…*snore*

“This is another Sunny-special no-news story”

Not so. This is a coming and unavoidable crunch issue. By a poll in Britain, reported in Monday’s Independent, 54pc want Britain to leave the EU – providing Britain could keep its close trading relationship with the bloc – while 36pc disagree and want to stay in the EU. But in or out, the EU isn’t going away and the EU will be defining the trading rules of the Single European Market whether Britain is there at the negotiating table or not.

European politicians and business people do read newspapers and worry about the continuing uncertainty over Britain’s EU membership and the financial implications of Britain’s withdrawal.

Also in the news, Italy’s prime minister has publicly urged David Cameron to call a decisive referendum on “the fundamental question” of whether Britain should remain in the EU:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1e522faa-37f9-11e2-b8d3-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2DNFhyWlz

Johnson only speaks for his friends in the city,

his opinions mean nothing to the average person in this country on account of him being a cretin.

To be honest I found this post a little confusing, as Boris is quoted saying he opposes an in-out referendum and you present this as a u-turn, but you don’t present any evidence that he ever did support an in-out referendum so it doesn’t appear to be a u-turn or change of stance at all.

He says he supports a vote on whether to accept a new EU constitution if and when one is introduced, which has always been Tory policy.

Miliband has made it clear he will not hold an in-out referendum either so I’m not sure why you imagine Labour must launch a massive campaign “if Labour want Britain to stay within the EU” – all they have to do is simply stick to their current policy of not calling a referendum on leaving the EU.

Labour has the same policy as the Tories on this issue, which is to hold a referendum on whether to accept major changes in the EU if they are proposed. This will certainly poses challenges for any government if the referendum is lost, but it’s nothing to do with whether or not Labour “want Britain to stay within the EU”.

I have no idea why you think anyone needs to GET the business community strongly on side British membership of the EU as they are already firmly on side.

Boris Johnson is a sexually louche and pro-drugs American citizen. He is an Ottoman aristocrat of very recent extraction, who has publicly recited the Shahada in Arabic.

These, of course, are the things which make Boris likeable, except in the eyes of puritans and bigots.

As the voice of big business Eurofederalism and unrestricted immigration, no less than as the voice of big business social liberalism and as the proponent of decidedly eccentric theological and historical opinions

You’re almost making me want to vote for him!

and in no small measure due to organised communal voting by a heavily concentrated ethnic minority with closer ties to a foreign and fairly hostile state than, manifestly, to the overwhelming bulk of their own nominal compatriots.

No, Jews no longer represent a significant voting bloc in London. And they’re the only concentrated ethnic minority tied to a single foreign state, so I have no idea what you’re talking about.

(the leading foreign country of birth for Londoners is India, followed by Poland, Bangladesh, Nigeria and Ireland. I believe we have cordial relationships with all these countries. You perhaps mean the #8 country, Pakistan?)

Frankly, I seriously doubt that Sunny has much of an insight (?clue) into the fundamental economic issues troubling the EU or to Britain’s membership of the EU or he wouldn’t have chopped off most of the thread with all the links.

As the Party’s slogan in Oceania went: Ignorance is Strength