The EDL might be miffed that Pakistan still housed OBL and the taliban leadership despite aid from the west – the same taliban who shoot young women in the face for wanting an education.

Its ‘the world centre of terrorism’ according to our Salman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV92bhuqEDI

Malala’s speech to the United Nations: http://www.aworldatschool.org/pages/the-text-of-malala-yousafzais-speech-at-the-united-nations

This site seems to have gone quiet on the recent spate of mosque attacks: odd since you were previously berating the BBC for not giving them enough coverage.

It’s like you’ve lost interest now that they’re not a handy stick to beat the EDL with.

Still, flag-burning eh? Bastards!

Suprised at the complete lack of respect and coverage of womens rights around here of late. This site is always zooming in on various issues connected to that yet when a women is jailed for being RAPED in Dubia, there is international outrage yet this site remained silent.

Hm..

One of the Ukrainian suspects arrested for questioning over the bombings has been charrged with the killing of Mohammed Saleem – a muder this site previously linked to the EDL and used as a symbol of the ‘hoplessness and fear of the English’ as a whole:

https://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/06/27/what-the-edl-tells-us-about-hopelessness-and-fear-in-english-/

4.
Very few people knew about the case until today when she was pardoned. If you are concerned about human rights issues, please visit the Avaaz website. Avaaz launched a petition to free the woman.

5.
Does the article link it? No.
Does the article in the Guardian link it? No.

How about because Pakistan is an Islamist state and one of the most religiously bigoted and intolerant nations on earth, and treats women and non-Muslims like utter shit, including jailing Christian children for blasphemy. That’s leaving aside the long-standing support for and production of terrorists, the funding of the Taliban, the hosting of bin Laden etc. Those all seem good enough reasons to express an antipathy to the place.

Do you post complaints whenever a US flag is burned in the world? No. Why not?

Did you post a complaint when Choudary and co burned a British flag on Poppy Day? No, you didn’t. In fact you defended their right to do so.

Your double standards are transparent.

7.
Where is the complaint?

“I thought the EDL campaign was only against extremist Muslims.”

LOL, no you didn’t! We all know what the EDL are.

5.
Does the article link it? No.
Does the article in the Guardian link it? No.

Try following the link in the words grisly murders (sic).

The clue’s in the word link.

The whole thrust of that article was that, in the wake of the ‘random murder’ of Lee Rigby, the English working class, alienated by benefit changes and cuts to the NHS, had joined the far right and were waging a terrorist war against Muslims – even, in the case of Saleem’s murder, travelling back in time to do so.

Now that these attacks appear to have been down to Ukrainian engineering students and some nutty Danish Somalian anf have fuck all to do with the working class, benefits or the NHS Sunny has completely lost interest.

Why? Because Pakistan is a muslim country.
The majoritiy of Muslims in the uk have their roots in Pakistan.
Pakistan is a terrorist nation.
The British hate everything about Pakistan.
Pakistan is a basket case of a nation and the quicker it implodes the better.

@ #8

(sigh)

if not an implicit complaint, why is the question being asked? Please, do tell us what’s objectionable about burning a Pakistani flag. It’s certainly a little childish – all flag burning is – but Pakistan is as worthy a candidate for protest as any country. Its treatment of minorities absolutely stinks.

Paul @ 11:

You’re forgetting “there but for the grace of God go I”.

Individuals unlucky enough to be born in basket case countries shouldn’t take the blame. Neither can you or I take the credit for living in a liberal, tolerant democracy.

Btw, you may hate everything about Pakistan, but I’d miss their cooking and their cricket team.

“Individuals unlucky enough to be born in basket case countries shouldn’t take the blame.”

Absolutely. But usually when a national flag – e.g. USA or Israel or Britain – is burned we are told it’s in protest against the state and its policies, not against individual people. Have the rules suddenly been changed?

Jack C, sorry I slightly misread what you were replying to. To clarify: I don’t believe in hating ‘everything about Pakistan’ because I don’t hate the people.

I do greatly dislike the way that country treats minorities and its exporting or terrorism and intolerance. It is pretty dreadful to a lot of its people and generally has an overall negative impact on other countries without many positives – possibly there are some but I can’t really see what they are currently.

Lib Con’s on going promotional campaign to raise the profile of the EDL continues…

Very few people knew about the case until today when she was pardoned.
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It was being reported by the DAILYMAIL seven days ago, and yet sunny could not pick it up? The same website that produces articles about the injustice of females being called an “idiot” in parliment could not write a single word about a women being locked up for being the victim of an attack?

We all know why.

“Why were the EDL trying to burn a Pakistani flag?”

Because they’re a gaggle of hysterical whackjobs.

LOL at ‘trying to burn’ btw. How inept do you have to be to fail at such a simple task?

Perhaps they should have hired a migrant worker to do it for them.

Thank goodness you’ve found another reason to lambast the EDL!

Those damn English bigots!

Just don’t mention the Ukrainians.

Doesn’t fit into your narrative – “British are violent racist bigots” – then ignore it and…

Keep on hating. Who is the true bigot I wonder.

@ 4

Truth is Sunny doesn’t give a toss about “women’s rights” – with that he’s one with the SWP.

He’s a true racist – it only matters if it happens to “brown” people.

What “brown” people do is de facto ok/ understanable/ misunderstood. What happens to white people is their own damn fault/ ignorance/ bigotry.

That’s because “brown” people are de facto oppressed. Even if they live in the West they’re oppressed. Even Sunny must be oppressed (by his own logic).

It’s a handy and comforting belief system, albeit a highly corrosive one that reinforces inequality, bigotry and communal tension.

But it’s a living.

5.
Yes, I was aware of the hyperlink and that’s why I mentioned the Guardian article.
8.
Who’s objecting?
17.
The Daily Mail – The definitive paradigm of diplomacy and tact. I’m sure that Dacre’s rag made a huge difference during the sensitive dialogue between the Norwegian government and Dubai.

The Daily Mail – The definitive paradigm of diplomacy and tact. I’m sure that Dacre’s rag made a huge difference during the sensitive dialogue between the Norwegian government and Dubai.
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When you have no valid point, its better to say nothing.

22.
What is your valid point? Are you stating that the LC website doesn’t cover world news in the same way as a mainstream media title?
I mentioned in comment 6 that a petition was launched at the Avaaz website and full marks to that organisation.

It may be a bit over your head..

Yes, I was aware of the hyperlink and that’s why I mentioned the Guardian article.

I obviously misread the sentence

Does the article link it? No.

as

Does the article link it? No.

An easy mistake to make – what with them being the same fucking thing.

25.
To make my comment clearer.
When I posted “Does the article link it? No.” I meant the article in the LC that you linked.
When I posted “Does the article in the Guardian link it? No.” I meant the Guardian link contained in the LC article that you linked.

25.
To make my comment clearer.
When I posted “Does the article link it? No.” I meant the article in the LC that you linked.
When I posted “Does the article in the Guardian link it? No.” I meant the Guardian link contained in the LC article that you linked.

What the hell language are you Google-translating this gibberish from?

The LC article I linked to links, in turn – via the hyperlink on the words grisly murders (plural) – to a Guardian article about the murder of Saleem Mohammed.

https://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/06/27/what-the-edl-tells-us-about-hopelessness-and-fear-in-english-communities/

Links to this:

http://m.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/02/birmingham-murder-racially-motivated-police

via a hyperlink on grisly murders.

The whole article is a bag of arse from start to finish. I mean, look at this shit:

Despite this, why has no major politician visited the burnt-down remains of the al-Rahma Islamic centre in Muswell Hill, or the Aisha mosque in Walsall bombed last Saturday? Why has no politician tackled the chilling rise of anti-Muslim violence?

Because to do so would be to introduce the causes of Islamophobia: hopelessness, poverty and fear in former-working class communities across England, and across Europe.

There is nothing special about the EDL. Like the BNP and NF before them, they are the latest manifestation of an ugly minority of violent racists with a warped understanding of English history. But examining the causes of their support leads to real problems, such as decades-long unemployment, housing shortages, hunger, benefits cuts, closing community services, alienation from mainstream politics, police racism and violence, and a wider culture of Islamophobic fear since the US/UK ‘War on Terror’.

The fear, anger and hopelessness of its lived experience is very real in many former-working class communities. It requires a ‘Britishness’ myth, despite being primarily an English problem. As with UKIP, perhaps the more acceptable and ‘common sense’ face of xenophobic nationalism, these right-wing parties and their media outlets offer an easy, us-and-them narrative for atomised and distressed individuals to believe in.

The writer takes it for granted that the attacks are perpetrated by angry, working class English men and then projects onto them all the patronising shite he can.

Now that it’s increasingly certain that these events were largely perpetrated by middle class Ukrainian students all that bullshit about ‘hopelessness, poverty and fear in former-working class communities’, ‘a warped understanding of English history’, ‘decades-long unemployment, housing shortages, hunger, benefits cuts, closing community services, alienation from mainstream politics, police racism and violence, and a wider culture of Islamophobic fear since the US/UK ‘War on Terror’’, ‘fear, anger and hopelessness’ of ‘former-working class communities’, ‘a ‘Britishness’ myth, despite being primarily an English problem’, ‘xenophobic nationalism’, ‘right-wing parties and their media outlets’ etc. is revealed for what it was: an easy, us-and-them narrative for middle class bigots to patronise and demonise the working class.

Like to see them try and burn Amir Khan’s flag he drapes over the corner of the ring.

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@ Paul – “the majority of Muslims in the UK have their roots in Pakistan”.

Er…no they don’t. People of Pakistani origin actually make up less than half of Britain’s Muslim population – 1.2 million out of 2.7 million.

“The British hate everything about Pakistan”

Which British? All my friends are British and they don’t. I’m British and I don’t. Sunny is British and he doesn’t… Need I go on? Or is a bit of simple reasoning wasted on a bigot like you?

Oh, and if you’re keen for Pakistan to “implode” then that would mean you’re eagerly waiting for tens of thousands more civilians to die violently (which is what generally happens when countries implode) which makes you a pathetic excuse for a human being.

27.
Neither article makes the connection that you assert. Your comment #5: “‘hoplessness and fear of the English’ as a whole” Where did you get that line?

Shatterface has handed you your arse in a basket, old boy. Deal with it and move on.

Suppose they ran out of al-Qaeda flags!?
When you burn a Pakistani flag you burn the flag of Malala Yousafzai, and of my nice neighbours, and of so many men, women and children who are victims of extremism themselves. If the EDL opposes extremism then I would suggest to get a proper flag, and to ‘defend’ Britain against what actually threatening it. Not Pakistan or Pakistanis, extremists! And so should morons who burn the flag that 8 million Israëli civilians live under when they mean colonists and Zionists and when you mean the Bush administration, why do you burn the flag of 316 million Americans? God, these people don’t even do justice to themselves.