The author is living in a dream-world.

You don’t have to have “diversity” in your job title to find, as a copper, you are hobbled in your actual job by the constant mantra of having to be “diversity-compliant”.

Anyhow, I imagine the the Police probably buys in most of it’s diversity training – from the Lee Jasper-ites of the this world.

As a member of the public, I don’t care if thugs/rapists/murders/assorted miscreants are black, white or pink with yellow dots, I want them stamped on, and bloody hard.

Read just about any thread on this blog, to see how diversity trainers (i.e. professional race-baiters) have crippled the Police Force in this Country.

The Police Inspector Blog

The article a bit like saying that because most soldiers don’t have the word “gun” in their job titles they have nothing to do with shooting. As an argument it just doesn’t work and is instead a combination of straw-man and missing the point completely.

The Met are clients of Linda Bellos’ Equality, Diversity and Human Rights Solutions company – so they are tuned into this message.

http://www.edhr.co.uk/index.php/about-us/client-list/

“The document, which is on the force’s website, shows just how few of their staff actually deal directly with “diversity” issues.”

Very few people have ‘diversity’ in their job titles. Very man have attended training courses and have to deal the ‘issue’ on a regular basis.

I mean, you do know that right? Based on this, I seriously doubt you are smarter than the DM readers you seek to stereotype.

My job title doesn’t include anything about dealing with bellends.

Still, by being “burdened by decades of political correctness,” and “crippled by liberalism” Hitchens probably means not supposed to beat up blacks, gays or crusties

Hey there’s a new blog to troll: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/index.html.

Damon the fact that Linda Bellos who banned white police from Using Lewisham Canteen on the late 80′s now advises teh Met on equality says it all, At the same time as Bellos bannign white police using the council facilities in the 80′s , In South africa Balck people weren’t allowed to use the facilities of White people.

for Mark Duggan’s Funeral police on the procession had to wear tunics and tip their hats as his coffin went past, this is the Same duggan who was not only on remand for terrible crimes as long as your arm, he was also A member of the Yardie gangster ,gang the Tottenham Dem Man, a gang whose leader Mark lambie was jailed in 2002 for 12 years for totrure kidpnap and GBH having believed to have killed as many as 30 people, Starting back when he was charged of killing P.C Blakelock in 1985 ,but despite being interviewed under caution with His solicitor and father present and pelading guilty ot throwng petrol bobmbs,,had the murder charge thrown out agaisnt him as Mike Mansfiled ripped through the witness who said he did it, i wonder If fellow Gang memeber of Duggan lambie had died, whether the Police would have worn tunics to the funeral Of Lambie instead,.
If that’s no a political correct Police force I don’t know what is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2005/jun/04/highereducation.news

http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/2011/09/12/bernard-hogan-howe-the-real-story/

It’s outrageous the police blame their failures during the riots on “political correctness”. They say they can’t even look at a black man

reality check:

For only 2.6% of the adult population blacks are victims of:

14.8% of stops and searches
7.6% of arrests
14.4% of the prison population

So, what is the problem the police think they have locking up black people? Or shooting Mark Duggan? If they had a problem, they would, but they don’t, so they don’t.

9 spiem, in the previous 10 years upto Duggnas shooitng of the 20 people shot dead by police ( with the excpetion Jean charles demenez) they were all white, so the police don’t go out of their way to shoot black people

@ 9

That’s 1 out of 20. So for only 2.6% of the population – 5% of the police shootings were of black men. And a horrifically disproportionate scale for Brazilian plumbers.

@ 10:

“And a horrifically disproportionate scale for Brazilian plumbers.”

A comment which reveals the problems with small sample sizes: single results can skew things significantly. Twenty is really too small a sample size to take any conclusions from. Yes, the percentage of black people shot was twice what you’d expect from their population size — but that’s because of the small sample size, not (necessarily) because of police racism. If the police had shot 1,000 and 50 of them were black, then you might have a point.

“Still, by being “burdened by decades of political correctness,” and “crippled by liberalism” Hitchens probably means not supposed to beat up blacks, gays or crusties”

Given that Hitchens has slated Enoch Powell for encouraging racial intolerance and backed the removal of golliwogs from jam jars (much to the displeasure of his fa club) I think that’s a bit unfair.

Lies, everyone knows there are thousands of ‘pc non jobs’ all paying six figures, in every branch of the state.

Still, by being “burdened by decades of political correctness,” and “crippled by liberalism” Hitchens probably means not supposed to beat up blacks, gays or crusties

Ten points.

8. splem

For only 2.6% of the adult population blacks are victims of:

14.8% of stops and searches
7.6% of arrests
14.4% of the prison population

Which suggests they are hobbled by political correctness – they are stopping and searching Black people at about the right rate (assuming that the numbers of people locked up reflects the number committing crimes) but they are not arresting people at the right rate. Something is preventing them.

11. XXX

A comment which reveals the problems with small sample sizes: single results can skew things significantly. Twenty is really too small a sample size to take any conclusions from. Yes, the percentage of black people shot was twice what you’d expect from their population size — but that’s because of the small sample size, not (necessarily) because of police racism. If the police had shot 1,000 and 50 of them were black, then you might have a point.

Well no. It would depend on a lot of other things. It would only be a problem if the sort of people likely to be shot are equally distributed across the population. I would assume the chances of being shot are strongly associated with the chances of shooting someone else. Dangerous criminals are more likely to be involved in incidents in which the police fire back. We know that young Black men are disproportionately involved in being murdered by guns in Britain. We are also pretty sure that they are disproportionately shot by other young Black men. We would therefore expect the police to shot and kill more young Black men than, say, elderly Chinese women. Whatever their shares of the over all population.

Why is a liberal sites comment board quickly turning into a echo chamber for right wing twats with to much time on their hands, and to a lesser extent pretend liberals with to much time on their hands.

@8 splem: and how many blacks were shot by other blacks using illegal guns?

Lets have the more important figures…
Not how many stop and searches etc in comparison to the Black population.
But how many crimes committed by Blacks in comparison to the Black population!

Googling found this:

“But the results of a Freedom Of Information Act request made for this Blog are not funny at all. I have discovered that in the last five years, the Metropolitan Police Diversity and Citizen Focus Directorate alone have spent just under £25 million on these issues. ”

http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/25-million-spin-and-grin-budget/

Here you are…These kinds of percentage of crimes to percentage of ‘X’ population.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article190268.ece

Two out of three charged with rape in Norway’s capital are immigrants with a non-western background according to a police study.
The number of rape cases is also rising steadily.

While 65 percent of those charged with rape are classed as coming from a non-western background, this segment makes up only 14.3 percent of Oslo’s population.
Norwegian women were the victims in 80 percent of the cases,

(and most of the rapists are also specifically Muslim)

How’s THAT for percentages for yer!

(and most of the rapists are also specifically Muslim)

The article doesn’t say this of course, it’s typical racist crap from it.

@18 – Yes, it’s a astonishing low budget, and has a lot to do with the shitty relations the police have with the public in many places these days. The police need a complete overhaul for their relationships with the public, but Labour sat on the report, and the Tories won’t do it, because smashing pleb heads is just fine with them.

“But the results of a Freedom Of Information Act request made for this Blog are not funny at all. I have discovered that in the last five years, the Metropolitan Police Diversity and Citizen Focus Directorate alone have spent just under £25 million on these issues. ”

Would you like me to tell you what that is as a percentage of their annual budget.

Would you like me to tell you what that is as a percentage of their annual budget.

That’s still a heck a lot of money. What’s it for? Are they sending these ”Inspector Gadget” like police to diversity awarness courses like the one run by Linda Bellos?

http://www.totalpolitics.com/history/3888/where-are-they-now-linda-bellos.thtml

That’s a pretty good gig she’s got going there, particularly as she once banned police from using her council facilities, on the grounds that they were, as she put it “bent on war”. Back in the 80s in south London.

What happens when you’re on one of these courses and you disagree with some of the things being said? Do you just have to sit there and suck it up, or can you have an open conversation about it? You need to pass these ”modules” or whatever they’re called to get promotion I’d guess these days. I’d like to be sent on such a course to see what they’re like.

@15 It may be that in this case because what you are seeking to criticise/characterise as “right wing” may be true. The OP sought to show there could be no political correctness in the Met because few officers had the word ‘diversity’ in their job title, which is about as big a straw man as you can get. One commenter then said “Blacks are victims of X% of arrests, X% of convictions…” Victims of convictions? Insofar as the convicted are genuinely guilty, victim is probably not the right word.

It’s a depressing part of reading Liberal Conspiracy that when palpable misrepresentation or downright nonsense is posted, angry criticism of that nonsense gets labelled “right wing trolling” – or in this case “right wing twats.” Just because something’s debunking a pro-left piece of legerdemain doesn’t mean it’s not true.

12 All the people shot dead by police (and all non unlawful killings) were men ,so the police are sexist for not finding Women with guns who won’t put the guns down they had to shoot,

the sexist bastards!!

That’s still a heck a lot of money.

Says you, in the scheme of £3.6 billion (the met budget in 2009 which is the most recent I could find) it isn’t.

What’s it for?

Is a fair point, I don’t think an eight hour seminar can untwatify somebody, but them I’m not spending my days wittering on about ‘politically correct policing’ – I accept that the police are exactly what they are.

@26. I’m not saying it’s ”too much” or anything, it would be just interesting to know what it goes on, and how much of a gravy train it is for the likes of the company I mentioned – and how much politics is involved in it.
Securing the contracts from the bodies in their list comes how for example?
This is certainly an impressive client list, and is quite funny when you remember what a firebrand high profile town hall leftie Linda Bellos was years ago.
http://www.edhr.co.uk/index.php/about-us/client-list/

It’s llike the ”looney left’s” revenge. They now get millions to train all those police and councils in their brand of diversity and human rights ideology.

27 especially lEE Jasper, when he had ot keep his mouth shut as Livingstones adivosr he wouldn’t come out with things about the police being Nazis, now he hasn’t got a job he does say all that stuff.