Daily Mail admits its ‘Winterval’ story untrue


9:30 am - November 8th 2011

by Sunny Hundal    


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This admission by the Daily Mail today is simply… staggering.

After years of perpetuating the myth, the Daily Mail issues this correction:

We stated in an article on 26 September that Christmas has been renamed in various places Winterval.

Winterval was the collective name for a season of public events, both religious and secular, which took place in Birmingham in 1997 and 1998.

We are happy to make clear that Winterval did not rename or replace Christmas.

via @MinorityThought

The Winterval myth has in fact become the stuff of legends, and Daily Mail columnists have repeated it for years without fact-checking.

After over ten years of fact-checking, most famously by Oliver Burkeman at the Guardian, the Daily Mail finally admits the Winterval story wasn’t true.

Update: Blogger Kevin Arscott brilliantly de-constructed the history of the Winterval myth last year.

Update 2: Tabloid Watch has the background.

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Reader comments


The most detailed investigation of the Winterval myth is by Kevin Arscott.

http://www.thedisinformed.co.uk/2010/12/12/the-winterval-myth/

2. Bugger (the Panda)

Well blow me down and flabbermeghast.

I would be more taken aback if the Daily Fail were to admit any of its stories were real.

The Beano has more credibility.

Does this appear in the paper and, if so, whereabouts and in what font size?

@ukliberty: I haven’t checked today’s edition yet, but the corrections column usually appears on page 2.

5. Chaise Guevara

Woah. Lawsuit? Rogue editor? Sudden attack of conscience?

The Mail and the churches should take this opportunity to come clean and admit that in the Roman empire, Christmastide festivities were celebrated as the feast of Saturnalia until the empire went Christian:

Saturnalia was introduced around 217 BC to raise citizen morale after a crushing military defeat at the hands of the Carthaginians. Originally celebrated for a day, on December 17, its popularity saw it grow until it became a week-long extravaganza, ending on the 23rd.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia

Besides that, historically there were a host of traditional local pagan festivals celebrating the winter solstice which Julius Ceasar had dated at December 25 in the Julian calendar. Probably for promotional reasons, the early Christian church seized on the array of pagan festivals and tagged December 25 to commemorate the birth of Christ – check the wikipedia entry for: winter solstice festivities, to see just how many different local festivals there were.

When I first went to live and work in Scotland in the early 1960s, Christmas day was a full working day in keeping with the Presbyterian tradition. The seasonal holiday there was at Hogmany to celebrate the start of the new year. The tradition of the family Christmas as we know it goes back to Victorian times. In Japan, where Christianity has had little historic influence, Christmas is extensively celebrated as a commercial festival to promote gift buying and appropriately extravagant corporate seasonal festivities.

Thanks Dave Cross @4.

I suppose page 2 is quite good in that it’s early, otoh it is a left-hand page.

They’ve even added a correction to one of Mel Phillips columns about it!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2041765/BBC-BC-AD-debate-Our-language-hijacked-Left.html

“Whoever invented the Daily Mail…..” (Leon Rosselson).

I hope a certain Ms M. P. accepts this in good grace.

10. Stevesparrow@gmail.com

Bob,

I’m not sure anyone is hiding the transition of festivals. What makes you think people are? Does it make the current festivals of less value?

Cheers
Steve

@10: “I’m not sure anyone is hiding the transition of festivals. What makes you think people are? Does it make the current festivals of less value?”

Just listen to the self-promoting seasonal propaganda, dolled out by officiants of the churches, on the unique significance of Christmas. How many clerics have been heard paying due regard to the historic precedents set by umpteen pagan festivals to celebrate the winter solstice centuries before the Christian era? Credit where credit is due IMO.

12. Leon Wolfson

@3/4 – We really need a law that press retractions should be in the same page position and font as the original story.

@ 12 Leon

“We really need a law that press retractions should be in the same page position and font as the original story.”

It’s already part of the Press Complaints Commission’s policies but unfortunately it is never enforced. If we had a regulatory body that wasn’t a powerless joke then it could happen. Ofcom works for other branches of media, put them in charge of the papers.

Now they’ve started, well, it could get out of hand.

The Leveson inquiry having some (probably temporary) effect as Dacre is worried that the PCC will be given teeth and taken out of the hands of newspaper editors.

Expect business as usual to return when it all blows over and Dacre no longer needs to try and prove how effectual self-regulation is

16. General Francisco Franco

What a bunch of sell outs the Daily Mail is. They are far to left wing for me. What next, Littlejohn opposing the death penalty?!?!!

I think I’ll will go back to reading the Der Sturmer at least they are consistent with their hatred.

I have to guess that Mel snapped at Dacre and this is his revenge.


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    RT @libcon Daily Mail admits its 'Winterval' story was untrue http://t.co/YRqvgp1e

  154. Ross Haig

    Damage is done though, let's face it. The Human Rights Act is doomed after years of similar tabloid myth-peddling http://t.co/cEVrrioy

  155. Holly

    The Daily Mail finally admits that its political-correctness-gone-mad 'Winterval' story was a complete myth: http://t.co/dbJbsqTS

  156. Melanie RJo

    Damage is done though, let's face it. The Human Rights Act is doomed after years of similar tabloid myth-peddling http://t.co/cEVrrioy

  157. Finton Stack

    @emmakraucou Must say, your timing is impeccable http://t.co/XaEbpE0D Happy #Winterval! I would say New Year too but I'd offend the Chinese

  158. Finton Stack

    @TheEdenCulture Except it wasn't that at all http://t.co/XaEbpE0D http://t.co/nJJckm3Q http://t.co/wYa2zRgh

  159. Liam Joyce

    Daily Mail – after repeating 'Christmas renamed Winterval' myth for years – admits story was untrue! http://t.co/KpW6gNUB

  160. Martin Baker

    The Daily Mail finally admits that its political-correctness-gone-mad 'Winterval' story was a complete myth: http://t.co/dbJbsqTS

  161. James White

    The Daily Mail finally admits that its political-correctness-gone-mad 'Winterval' story was a complete myth: http://t.co/dbJbsqTS

  162. Mike Currie

    RT @libcon Daily Mail FINALLY admits its 'Winterval' story was untrue http://t.co/UWTPM8pk

  163. Sarah Hapgood

    The Daily Wail/Fail/Hell/Fascist made something up? Well I'll go 2 th foot of our stairs > http://t.co/XJ1Y0oul via @libcon

  164. SourabhSB

    Top story today > Daily Mail finally admits long-running ‘Christmas renamed Winterval’ story was untrue http://t.co/KpW6gNUB

  165. Chris Brown

    I can't believe the Daily Mail killed Winterval. Have they no respect for tradition? http://t.co/cWZtRKI4

  166. paulwalteruk

    Daily Mail admits its ‘Winterval’ story untrue | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/qjOrjPRQ via @libcon

  167. Tim Holyoake

    Daily Mail admits its ‘Winterval’ story untrue | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/qjOrjPRQ via @libcon

  168. Nigel Powell

    Top story today > Daily Mail finally admits long-running ‘Christmas renamed Winterval’ story was untrue http://t.co/KpW6gNUB

  169. Naadir Jeewa

    After 10 years Daily Mail finally admits some of its "creeping Sharia" stories were entirely fabricated: http://t.co/vaZC1l40

  170. Ms Anonymous

    After 10 years Daily Mail finally admits some of its "creeping Sharia" stories were entirely fabricated: http://t.co/vaZC1l40

  171. Robert Clayton

    After 10 years Daily Mail finally admits some of its "creeping Sharia" stories were entirely fabricated: http://t.co/vaZC1l40

  172. Stewart Owadally

    Daily Mail – after repeating 'Christmas renamed Winterval' myth for years – admits story was untrue! http://t.co/KpW6gNUB

  173. Vijay Singh Riyait

    Daily Mail – after repeating 'Christmas renamed Winterval' myth for years – admits story was untrue! http://t.co/KpW6gNUB

  174. Christopher Down

    The Daily Mail finally admits that its political-correctness-gone-mad 'Winterval' story was a complete myth: http://t.co/dbJbsqTS

  175. Third Eye Consulting

    The Daily Mail finally admits that its political-correctness-gone-mad 'Winterval' story was a complete myth: http://t.co/dbJbsqTS

  176. Kavya Kaushik

    Daily Mail admits its ‘Winterval’ story untrue | Liberal Conspiracy http://t.co/qjOrjPRQ via @libcon

  177. Andy Middleton

    Daily Mail admits its ‘Winterval’ story untrue http://t.co/0nXMekPj

  178. Ben Bruce

    "@libcon: Daily Mail admits its 'Winterval' story was untrue http://t.co/Fazqkq48&quot; Massive lol. Happy Winterval everyone!

  179. Hugh Platt

    @Merl_Alderslade @PaulCaudell It's everyone's duty to ridicule racist stupidity when it appears in facebook feeds http://t.co/cWrchnd7

  180. Trevor Jones

    I see the Winterval bollocks has surfaced again. It's a myth folks, Daily Mail right wing bollocks. http://t.co/NDc5xVtQ

  181. Trevor Jones

    I see the Winterval bollocks has surfaced again. It's a myth folks, Daily Mail right wing bollocks. http://t.co/uRLdDe2T

  182. It Gets Better: Against the Sentimental Conspiracy of Misery « Max Dunbar

    […] In a choice between well-intentioned silliness and brutality, there’s no contest. Even the Daily Mail has dropped its Winterval story. […]

  183. Paul Moloney

    @datbeardyman @RightExpression I mean, that's something even the Daily Mail corrected! http://t.co/F3g08vb6

  184. Shashank Joshi

    @DaveedGR @jonathanshainin We have a long record of successfully prosecuting the war on Christmas, for instance: http://t.co/oxUpdTMI





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